With over 40 years in politics, Binda Pandey has worked to put women at the heart of Nepal’s democracy. In her book "Gender Participation in Parliamentary Politics", she argues that true equality demands not just representation, but structural change.
Binda Pandey is a prominent figure in Nepali politics, with more than four decades of experience in gender justice, rights activism and policy making. She holds a PhD in Women Empowerment in Politics from Kathmandu University (2017). Dr Pandey served as a founding member of the National Women Commission (2002-2004), a member of the Constituent Assembly (2008-2012), and has been part of the federal parliament since 2017. She was actively involved in national and international trade union movements for decades, and was a member of the governing body of the International Labour Organization during 2011-21.
In 2024, she published the book Gender Participation in Parliamentary Politics (Sansadiya Rajnitima Laingik Sahabhagita संसदीय राजनीतिमा लैङ्गिक सहभागिता) in Nepali, detailing parliamentary practices, processes, and gender issues over the years. Dr Pandey views her book as a continuation of the women's movement, addressing Nepal's parliamentary politics, the formation of the Constituent Assembly, the declaration of the constitution, and women’s representation in South Asia. FES Nepal discussed with her the sub-regional and national challenges in the pursuit of substantive gender equality. Her words have been lightly edited for concision and clarity.
FES Nepal: In your book you highlight the ascent of women to the highest political offices in South Asia, such as Sirmavo Bandaranaike in Sri Lanka, Indira Gandhi in India, Benazir Bhutto in Pakistan and Sheikh Hasina and Khaleda Zia in Bangladesh. Additionally, you reference Dwarika Devi Thakurani in Nepal. Does the rise of these women to prominent political positions effectively address gender discrimination or is more required for substantive change?
Binda Pandey: Thank you very much for this opportunity to share Nepali experiences with colleagues beyond the border. Being a woman in position, or actually making a difference in day-to-day life of general people, are different things. Women holding the topmost executive positions in South Asia has demonstrated that both men and women can hold any positions of state. It has had a psychological impact on women, especially the next generation, that every citizen is capable of holding every position and doing anything. This is a positive side of having women in leading positions and breaking the patriarchal setup.
But, while talking about substantive gender change in the society, the representative should have a clear feminist perspective and a willingness to make structural changes accompanied by the required policies, laws, roles and responsibilities. Their focus should be on changing the value system to equalise access to and control over resources in both the private and public spheres. Resources from a feminist perspective include economic value and opportunity, time, and knowledge, as well as skills and positions.
Beside these, the family and social background in which a person has grown up also matter. In South Asia, almost all women in positions of power have attained them because of the demise of a prominent male member of their family [who held a position]. This causes them to focus not on the gender impact in general rather on strengthening their hold on the position themselves. As result, having women in topmost positions of power in almost all South Asian countries has brought not much remarkable changes to the lives of general women, or to the gender norms and values in the society.
FES Nepal: You emphasize the necessity for societal awareness and the development of policies and programmes to achieve meaningful gender equality. Could you elaborate on the initial steps needed to embark on this journey toward substantive equality and the long-term strategies to ensure its realization?
Binda Pandey: In my understanding, the meaning of democracy is more power to people. Democracy does not only mean casting a vote once every five years and lifting somebody to a position of power. People should be able to watch and comment on each and every issue, at least those relating to their community and society as a whole, and to intervene in a timely manner based on necessity. A person in a position should be cautious at every moment when setting policies and programmes that impact the lives of general people. A person in power should be always act carefully to ensure their actions support mainstreaming marginalized groups. In terms of gender issues, every policy and programme should contribute positively to changing gender relations, roles and access in a more equitable way.
The issue of gender equality is deeply embedded in culture and human behaviour, which may take generations to change. That is why, to achieve substantive equality in society, long-term strategies are needed, with action plans [based on] the availability of relevant resources, as well as mechanisms for monitoring and evaluation to ensure tangible impacts.
FES Nepal: In your book, you assert that civil rights alone are insufficient for establishing an egalitarian society. You argue that these rights must be complemented with economic, social, cultural and educational advancements. What specific policy-level actions do you believe are necessary to address these dimensions and promote comprehensive gender equality in the region?
Binda Pandey: If the different elements of society [are compared to a human body], civil rights are the mind, economy is the backbone to stand, and social and cultural rights are the nervous system, which regulate the social relations and tasks among the members of the family, within society, and in the state mechanism. In terms of education, formal education gives people knowledge, confidence, and creates opportunities. But people learn much more in non-formal ways, such as human manners and values. That is why, to make the civil rights properly functional, they should be accompanied by good economic, social, cultural and educational advancement.
In addition, the most important value of a human being is wisdom, which [allows] people to stand with identity, respect, dignity and responsibility with humbleness. This is possible when people can enjoy civil rights freely and fearlessly, realizing things from deep in their hearts and deciding wisely with mindfulness.
FES Nepal: Evidence from South Asian countries demonstrates that merely having good policies is not enough for substantive change. What instruments or mechanism do you consider essential for effectively implementing these policies and ensuring their impact on gender equality?
Binda Pandey: Policy on paper is good enough to show to people and the world. But translating those policies into practice needs a growth mindset. Our problem is that political systems and state structures have been changed, but leading positions everywhere are dominated by fixed mindset. In my experience, the state formulates good policies based on social pressure from rights-based campaigns, advocacy, and commitments made during difficult times such as people's movement in 2006. For instance, when democracy was in danger after the [deposition] of the monarchy in 2005, women leaders across political parties came up with common gender agendas. Just before gearing up for the republican movement, on the very day of International Women's Day 2006, top leaders from different political parties publicly committed to considering those agendas after the restoration of democracy. Similarly, Nepal is internationally committed to CEDAW [the 1979 Convention on the Elimination of All Forms of Discrimination Against Women], SDGs [the Sustainable Development Goals of the UN Agenda 2030], BPfA [the 1995 Beijing Declaration and Platform for Action] as well as ILO [International Labour Organization] conventions related to equality. In response to all these commitments, policies and laws have been set up.
But, to translate policies and laws into practice, a growth mindset with a clear perspective and willpower is needed. Basic human rights such as identity, respect and dignity should be inborn components. Each and every state mechanism should not be gendered in terms of participation and functions, [to move] toward achieving substantive change.
For this cause, affirmative action is the common equity strategy to mainstream the gender equality movement in the world. While developing affirmative action, it should be accompanied by at least four elements such as (a) ensuring critical mass for quantitative representation, (b) confidence and competency building activities for quality development (c) activities to change attitude and mindset, as well as the behaviour of the mainstream community, and (d) mentorship for marginalized groups to establish their leadership.
FES Nepal: During the first Constituent Assembly in Nepal, women’s groups formed a caucus that successfully advocated for their agendas within political parties and the parliament. After the promulgation of the 2015 Constitution, the caucus has been transitioned by has been replaced by the Women's Parliament Coordinating Committee, which has also made strides in creating gender-friendly laws and policies. Could you discuss the importance of solidarity between the cross-party women parliamentarians in this context and how it helps to enhance their collective effectiveness?
Binda Pandey: The key to achieving women's rights and social justice in our context is a more widely coordinated solidarity, collaborative effort, and collective action on a common agenda, among and beyond the women's movement. In this regard, examples can be taken time and again from our past. After the overthrowing of the 103-year Rana Regime, an advisory council was formed in 1953 to act somehow as interim legislation, but it was women-free. Then, women with different ideologies and professions rebelled against it. As result, four women were nominated to the council.
Another example is the 1990 constitution of Nepal, which discriminated against daughters in regard to paternal property, and a case was filed in the supreme court in 1995. After a year, the court gave a verdict to correct [that discrimination]. Responding court verdict, there was a bill in parliament, but it lingered for a few years with reluctance to adopt it. The Inter-Parliamentary Union (IPU) (Note: The IPU is an international organization of national parliaments) recommended forming a cross-party alliance between women members of parliament to make their voice heard. As a member state, the parliament of Nepal formed the women MPs Caucus in late 2001. This started to make [women’s] collective voice. Finally, in March 2002, the bill relating to women's right to property, divorce, abortion etc. (known as 11th amendment of civil code) was adopted unanimously through parliament.
Coming together for common goals continued even after the successful movement in April 2006. (Note: April 2006 saw the restitution of Nepal’s House of Representatives, dissolved in 2002, following successful people's movement.) On 30 May, a motion was unanimously adopted [in parliament] ensuring at least one-third of women [representatives] in every state mechanism, [the ability to acquire] citizenship using the mother’s name, the amendment of all gender discriminatory laws and the ending of gender-based violence. But, while the commission to draft the interim constitution was formed in second week of June, no woman was included. Then, women of all political ideologies and professions, as well as civil society, immediately came to the street with demand of respecting parliamentary motion adopted two weeks ago. After a week-long street agitation, four women, including Sushila Karki (who later became chief justice of the supreme court) were included in the commission. In fact, they played a vital role to include the provisions regarding gender equality as part of the interim constitution.
Similarly, women members of the first Constituent Assembly, across the parties, formed the Women’s Caucus in 2008. It worked closely on the common gender agenda internally and coordinated with women's movements externally, including women's alliances such as political leaders, women's organizations, professionals, civil society organizations and NGOs. The broader coordination, cooperation and collective action resulted in significant achievements in favour of gender equality in the draft constitution.
In addition, during the second Constituent Assembly in 2014, the Women’s Caucus was badly discouraged by political leaders, and informally banned. But, when a woman was elected as speaker of the house after promulgation of the constitution on September 20, 2015, women members of parliament came together under the name Women MPs Coordination Committee in December 2015. It could intervene effectively in the legislative process. As a result, critical masses of women in political parties and executive positions of local government, as well as the equal property rights, have been guaranteed by related laws.
All these experiences have proven that when women come together, they can make tangible changes [regarding] gender parity and social justice.
FES Nepal: There has been debate on amendment of constitution of Nepal. One of the issues of amendment is enhancing gender equality in political representation and decision-making process. In this context, how should women parliamentarians strategize and collaborate to ensure that gender considerations are adequately addressed in the amendment process?
Binda Pandey: Amendment of the constitution is one of the important issues. Before making remarks on it, the constitution needs to be audited with a gender lens, not only the provisions of numerical representation, but also, guaranteeing topmost positions, the provisions relating to identity and citizenship, the process of nominating people to constitutional bodies etc. In addition, the proposals with a gender perspective need to be prepared beforehand, and do campaigning to let the masses know about its relevancy. While the government must start this process, intervention can happen from the rank and file as well.
For this purpose, as well, it is necessary to have a women MPs’ alliance, which would be part of the regulation of federal parliament and a collaborative effort with wider solidarity from media, women's movements in the political sphere, as well as the civic arena. In addition, more than two thousand women across the country have worked at least one term as elected representatives, from the national parliament to local bodies as executive posts. This is an incredible human resource, with experience. Bringing them into a network and mobilizing them in favour of changing gender relations, roles and responsibilities, can make a huge impact.
FES Nepal: There have been instances where state institutions have failed to adhere to constitutional requirements concerning women’s representation in Nepal. In light of this, are there specific lessons that countries in Asia can learn from Nepal? Conversely, are there effective practices from other Asian nations that Nepal could adopt?
Binda Pandey: Feminizing politics as state mechanism, policy, leadership, agenda and practice are the key to promoting substantive gender equality. In our context, in a sense policies and agendas have now been set up. But making real structural change is a big challenge. A critical mass of women is almost guaranteed in many structures, but not in critical positions to make and intervene in decisions. This is caused by a lack of feminist perspective and growth mindset in leadership. While talking about the takeaways for other countries, creating broader alliances, building support systems, and maximizing available resources collaboratively might be something to learn from Nepali experiences.
Collaboration with academia to make fact-based policy interventions, and feminizing the politics to make change more sustainable with quality, are weakness with regards to our work. [There is also a tendency for grassroots experiences to be blurred or distorted by the academic process of knowledge production.] Learning from others in these areas would be essential to strengthen our work with tangible outputs in a functional way. For this purpose, regular public gender auditing of different sectors and issues, and making those materials available and accessible for people in general, are equally important.
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